See, ho! Who is that there?
Look there! Who is that?
Hey, who's that over there?
who's that
It is the Lord Aeneas.
That is Aeneas, the Trojan lord.
That's Aeneas.
it's aeneas
Aeneas is the play's closest thing to a moral voice. He speaks with courtesy and warrior's honor. He is deeply troubled by what he must convey to Troilus, and his language shifts from cordial to urgent when he realizes the gravity of the news.
Is the Prince there in person?
Had I so good occasion to lie long
As you, Prince Paris, nothing but heavenly business
Should rob my bed-mate of my company.
Is the Prince here in person? If I had as much excuse to stay in bed As you do, Prince Paris, nothing but important business Would keep me from my partner in bed.
Is Paris actually here? If I had your excuse to stay in bed—which you clearly do—nothing would get me out except serious business.
you got it good staying in bed i'd never leave if i were you
Diomedes is intelligent, direct, and willing to speak harsh truths. His speech about Helen is the play's most brutal condemnation — he calls her a 'bawdy' commodity whose contamination has cost countless lives. He is ruthless but not cruel; he simply refuses to prettify war.
That’s my mind too. Good morrow, Lord Aeneas.
That is also what I think. Good morning, Lord Aeneas.
I feel the same way. Morning, Aeneas.
same, morning
A valiant Greek, Aeneas—take his hand:
Witness the process of your speech, wherein
You told how Diomed, a whole week by days,
Did haunt you in the field.
You are a strong Greek warrior, Aeneas—shake his hand. You told me before how Diomedes spent a whole week Pursuing you on the battlefield.
Aeneas, this is a real Greek fighter—check this out. You told me Diomedes chased you around the field for a week straight.
diomedes hunted u all week
Health to you, valiant sir,
During all question of the gentle truce;
But when I meet you arm’d, as black defiance
As heart can think or courage execute.
Good health to you, brave sir, As long as this peaceful truce lasts. But when I meet you armed, I promise you As much hostility and determination As my heart can think or my courage can execute.
I hope you stay well as long as this truce is on. But once I see you in armor again, I'm coming at you with everything I've got, with all the anger and fight I can muster.
enjoy the peace when u get armed, i'm coming for u
The exchange between Aeneas and Diomedes is one of the play's most sophisticated moments. Both men are enemies, yet both show genuine respect and courtesy. They trade compliments that are actually threats — Diomedes promises to 'hunt' Aeneas's life with 'all my force, pursuit, and policy.' Aeneas responds in kind. The scene shows that war has its own theatre and its own civility. Men who will kill each other tomorrow can share wine and compliments today. This is not hypocrisy but a recognition that war is itself a structured game with rules of courtesy. The moment is crucial because it establishes that the combat to come will be honorable, even as it will be lethal. The tragedy is that honor in war means nothing — Hector will die not in combat but in a massacre, slaughtered by Achilles and his Myrmidons.
The one and other Diomed embraces.
Our bloods are now in calm; and so long health!
But when contention and occasion meet,
By Jove, I’ll play the hunter for thy life
With all my force, pursuit, and policy.
I embrace both sides of your promise. Our anger is calm right now, and may it stay that way. But when fighting starts and opportunity comes, I swear I will hunt for your life With all my strength, strategy, and determination.
I like that promise—I'm making the same one. We're cool now, let's stay cool. But when the fighting starts, I'm coming after you with everything I've got: strength, smarts, whatever it takes.
i feel the same way when we fight, i'm all in
And thou shalt hunt a lion that will fly
With his face backward. In humane gentleness,
Welcome to Troy! Now, by Anchises’ life,
Welcome indeed! By Venus’ hand I swear
No man alive can love in such a sort
The thing he means to kill, more excellently.
And you will hunt a lion that will run away Backward, looking at you. With human kindness, Welcome to Troy! Now, by my father's life, Welcome indeed! By Venus' hand I swear No man alive can love with such grace The thing he means to kill so perfectly.
Well, you'll be hunting a lion that runs backward so he can keep looking at you. But welcome to Troy anyway, with all kindness. By my father's memory, genuinely welcome. I swear, no man alive can love what he's about to kill as beautifully as we do.
hunting a lion that runs backward welcome to troy anyway we love what we're about to kill
We sympathise. Jove let Aeneas live,
If to my sword his fate be not the glory,
A thousand complete courses of the sun!
But in mine emulous honour let him die
With every joint a wound, and that tomorrow!
We understand each other. May the gods grant Aeneas A thousand more days under the sun, If my sword doesn't give him glory in death. But let him fall with competitive honor, With every joint wounded, and let it be tomorrow!
We're on the same page. I hope you live for a thousand years unless I'm the one who kills you. But if we fight, let me beat you with complete honor, with wounds everywhere, tomorrow if we can.
live long unless i kill u if we fight, may u fall with honor
We know each other well.
Our mutual knowledge is complete.
Yeah, we go way back.
old friends
We do; and long to know each other worse.
We do; and we look forward to knowing each other worse.
Yeah; and we're looking forward to beating the crap out of each other.
can't wait to beat u
This is the most despiteful gentle greeting,
The noblest hateful love, that e’er I heard of.
What business, lord, so early?
This is the most hateful kind greeting, The most noble hostile affection that I have ever heard of. What business brings you here so early, my lord?
That's the most cold greeting mixed with affection I've ever heard—classy way to threaten someone. So what brings you here so early?
strangest greeting ever what's up so early
I was sent for to the King; but why, I know not.
I was called for by the King, but I do not know why.
The King wanted to see me, but I have no idea what it's about.
king wants me, dunno why
His purpose meets you: ’twas to bring this Greek
To Calchas’ house, and there to render him,
For the enfreed Antenor, the fair Cressid.
Let’s have your company; or, if you please,
Haste there before us. I constantly believe—
Or rather call my thought a certain knowledge—
My brother Troilus lodges there tonight.
Rouse him and give him note of our approach,
With the whole quality wherefore; I fear
We shall be much unwelcome.
His purpose matches your arrival. It was to take this Greek To Calchas' house and exchange him there, For the freed Antenor, the beautiful Cressida. Come with us, or if you prefer, Go there before us. I strongly believe— Or I should say I know for certain— That my brother Troilus is staying there tonight. Wake him and tell him we're coming, With the full explanation of why. I'm afraid We will not be welcome.
Perfect timing. We need to take Diomedes to Calchas' house and trade him for Antenor to free Cressida. Come with us, or go ahead if you want. My brother Troilus is definitely there tonight. Go wake him up and let him know we're on our way with this news. Fair warning: he's not going to be happy about it.
take diomedes to calchas swap him for antenor for cressida tell troilus we're coming he won't be happy
Diomedes' speech is the harshest economic calculation in the play. He doesn't see Helen as a woman or even as a beauty — he sees her as a price paid in dead soldiers. Every drop of her blood equals a Greek dead; every scruple of her weight equals a Trojan slain. She is not a person but a balance sheet of suffering. What's remarkable is that Diomedes is right. The entire war is fought over Helen, and Helen is fundamentally worthless except as the pretext for war. Yet the play refuses to side entirely with Diomedes' view — we need Helen to be beautiful, to matter, for the tragedy to work. So the play holds both truths: Helen is a commodity whose sexual utility has cost thousands of lives, and she is also genuinely beautiful and deserving of desire. The contradiction is the point — war's ultimate cruelty is that it makes people into economics.
That I assure you:
Troilus had rather Troy were borne to Greece
Than Cressid borne from Troy.
I promise you: Troilus would rather see Troy moved to Greece Than Cressida taken from Troy.
I'm telling you: Troilus would rather have all of Troy dragged to Greece than have Cressida dragged away from it.
troilus would move troy to greece rather than lose cressida
There is no help;
The bitter disposition of the time
Will have it so. On, lord; we’ll follow you.
There is no help for it. The harsh mood of the moment Will have it this way. Come on, lord; we will follow you.
There's nothing we can do about it. That's just how things are right now. Let's go, we'll follow you.
can't change it that's just how it is
Good morrow, all.
Good morning, everyone.
Good morning to all of you.
morning
And tell me, noble Diomed, faith, tell me true,
Even in the soul of sound good-fellowship,
Who in your thoughts deserves fair Helen best,
Myself, or Menelaus?
Tell me, noble Diomedes, honestly tell me, In the spirit of true friendship, Who in your judgment deserves fair Helen most, Me or Menelaus?
Diomedes, seriously, as a real friend, who do you think deserves Helen more—me or Menelaus?
who deserves helen more me or menelaus
Both alike:
He merits well to have her that doth seek her,
Not making any scruple of her soilure,
With such a hell of pain and world of charge;
And you as well to keep her that defend her,
Not palating the taste of her dishonour,
With such a costly loss of wealth and friends.
He like a puling cuckold would drink up
The lees and dregs of a flat tamed piece;
You, like a lecher, out of whorish loins
Are pleas’d to breed out your inheritors.
Both merits pois’d, each weighs nor less nor more,
But he as he, the heavier for a whore.
Both equally. He deserves her by seeking her and wanting her, Not bothering about her shame, With such suffering and such expense; And you deserve her by keeping her and defending her, Not caring about her dishonor, With such costly sacrifice of wealth and friendships. He like a whining cuckold would drink the dregs Of a tamed, worn-out woman. You, like a lecher, are pleased to produce heirs From a whorish stock. Both deserve equally, but balanced against each other: He as he is, the worse one for keeping a whore.
Both equally. He deserves her because he went and got her without caring she's shameful, and he's paying a huge price. You deserve her because you keep her and defend her reputation, also at huge cost to yourself. He's like a sad guy who married someone messed up, drinking the worst part of a ruined woman. You're like a pervert happy to breed kids from a shameful mother. You both deserve her the same amount, but he's slightly worse because he's got a reputation for keeping a whore.
both of you both paying price for her but he gets the worse deal
You are too bitter to your country-woman.
You are being too harsh about your fellow Greek.
Come on, you're being rough on your own people.
harsh on your own
She’s bitter to her country. Hear me, Paris:
For every false drop in her bawdy veins
A Grecian’s life hath sunk; for every scruple
Of her contaminated carrion weight
A Trojan hath been slain. Since she could speak,
She hath not given so many good words breath
As for her Greeks and Trojans suff’red death.
She has been harsh to her own country. Listen to me, Paris: For every false drop in her corrupted veins A Greek has died; for every tiny part of her Contaminated body weight A Trojan has been killed. Since she could speak, She has not said so many kind words As Greeks and Trojans that died because of her.
She's been harsh to her own country. Listen, Paris: for every bit of dishonest blood in her corrupt body, a Greek died. For every tiny piece of her polluted weight, a Trojan died. Since she could talk, she's never said enough good words to pay for all the Greeks and Trojans who died for her.
for every drop of her blood a greek or trojan died that's the cost of helen
Fair Diomed, you do as chapmen do,
Dispraise the thing that you desire to buy;
But we in silence hold this virtue well,
We’ll not commend what we intend to sell.
Here lies our way.
Fair Diomedes, you are doing what merchants do, Talking down the things you want to buy; But we Greeks keep silent about this reputation, We will not praise what we intend to trade away. Here is our direction.
Diomedes, you're acting like a merchant—bad-mouthing what you want to buy. We Trojans don't advertise Helen's value—we're not going to recommend what we're getting rid of. Let's go this way.
u talk down what u want we say nothing about what we trade
The Reckoning
The scene captures the strange theatre of war: two enemies playing at courtly civility, exchanging compliments laced with promises of murder. The irony is exquisite — they praise each other precisely because they plan to kill each other. But the scene's real tragedy is structural. Aeneas arrives to deliver news that Troilus will be devastated to hear. The casual tone of the earlier dialogue between Aeneas and Diomedes stands in brutal contrast to what Aeneas must now convey: Cressida is being traded away like property.
If this happened today…
Two opposing military leaders run into each other in a war zone. They exchange pleasantries that are actually veiled threats — promises of mutual destruction dressed up as mutual respect. Meanwhile, one of them carries orders that will devastate the other's world.